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Post by richardklein on May 17, 2015 19:14:43 GMT -6
Just what did Elkanah give or not give to Hannah as her offering?
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Post by CowboysDad on May 17, 2015 21:34:44 GMT -6
Evidently a double portion of beef, lamb or goat meat as part of a peace offering (Lev. 3:1, 6, 12)
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Post by rich Klein on May 18, 2015 8:00:08 GMT -6
How much?? The Hebrew is rather challenging. And "why" how much?
See the RSV for example translations. Someone brought that to my
attention.
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Post by CowboysDad on May 18, 2015 14:23:26 GMT -6
Ah, your question was more subtle than I anticipated. I'll look at the Hebrew and holler back.
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Post by CowboysDad on May 18, 2015 16:34:31 GMT -6
I don't like the RSV translation of 1:5. I think it overlooks אַפָּ֑יִם
Compare this verse to 1 Samuel 23:3 where the singular form וְאַף is used in much the same way and translated idiomatically, "how much more." See BDB, archive.org/stream/hebrewenglishlex00browuoft#page/65/mode/1up
I think אַפָּ֑יִם as a dual here in 1:5 intends to imply a doubling since it reads "faces" or particularly "two faces" meaning an identical reproduction. I'd read in 1:5 that he gave her "one portion, a double one" BECAUSE he loved her.
- Daniel
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Post by Rich Klein on May 24, 2015 7:38:46 GMT -6
Agreed.
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Post by CowboysDad on May 24, 2015 15:59:55 GMT -6
On a more logical level, if the RSV is correct and Hannah got "only one portion," then did everyone else start with a double portion? That doesn't follow naturally.
- Daniel
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