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Post by richardklein on Aug 3, 2015 15:26:55 GMT -6
Look at Acts 9:37 in the Greek. Who washed Dorcas body and then carried it up into an upper room?
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Post by CowboysDad on Aug 4, 2015 21:22:17 GMT -6
Got me! I'll poke around.
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Post by brianwagner on Aug 28, 2015 8:22:56 GMT -6
I like Gill a lot for these kind of traditional things. He said - whom, when they had washed; as was the manner of the Jews; and this they did, even though it was on a sabbath day: for so their canon runs (f),
"they do all the necessaries for the dead (on the sabbath), they anoint him, "and they wash him";''
yet that of Maimonides deserves some notice (g);
"it is forbidden to anoint part of the body, as the whole body; but if it is to remove filth, it is lawful; and so it is forbidden to wash part of the body with hot water, but with cold water they may wash his face, his hands, and his feet, but not the whole body.''
"This custom still continues, and their usual method is to wash the body with hot water, in which they put dried roses and camomile flowers: likewise, they take an egg, and beat it up in wine, and therewith anoint the head; and this washing and anointing are done by some at the house before the corpse is carried out (as here); but in some places, especially where there is a large number of Jews, all this is done in the burying places; where they have a little house, whither they carry the corpse, and put it on a table, and there wash it; and after washing, put, it into a coffin, and inter it (h): and this has been the custom of other nations, if not of all nations: the custom with the Turks is this (i); the body being laid upon a board, and covered with a linen cloth, one of the ecclesiastical elders washes it with hot water and soap, another being present to hand the water; but they do not suffer others to look on: the body is thrice washed; and the third time they mingle camphire with it; and being washed, it is put into a coffin. And Ludolphus (k) reports of the Abyssines, that their bodies being well washed and perfumed, they wrap them up in garments, and then are put upon a bier, and buried. And this was the practice both of the ancient Grecians and Romans, that as soon as ever anyone was dead, the body was immediately washed and anointed. Thus Creon is said to fetch Jocaste to wash her dead son; and Antigone requests of Creon, that she might wash her brother (l). It has been the custom of some countries to wash their dead bodies in rivers: and some people, in the northern parts, have chose, for this reason, to have their burying places near the banks of rivers, that their dead bodies might be washed in running water: and the Indians, which live at a distance from the river Ganges, will go fifteen or twenty days journey thither, to wash their corpse in it, though then putrefied, and then burn them; yea, they take their sick alive when they think they will die, and put them up to their middle in rivers, that they may die in pure and clear water; and they enjoin a very severe penance on those who omit to bring such as are near death, to a river to be washed."
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Post by CowboysDad on Aug 29, 2015 8:43:23 GMT -6
Read somewhere that during the Inquisition the authorities would examine corpses to see if they could find evidence that the bodies had been washed and so detect Jewish ethnicity.
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Post by rich klein on Aug 31, 2015 20:03:12 GMT -6
In Acts 9 check the gender of the pronouns-the washers. Usually ... washed deceased women.
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Post by brianwagner on Sept 2, 2015 10:36:31 GMT -6
The Disciples (masculine noun, vs 38) would be generic, including men and women. So I think it might be placing too much on the adverbial masculine participle "washed", vs 37, to dogmatically say it is pointing to men.
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