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Post by richardklein on Aug 30, 2016 7:58:02 GMT -6
I am doing Distance Learning in The Gospel of John with a couple of students.
We were pondering who might be the "unnamed disciple" in John 1:40?
I have read widely about the possibilities and the probabilities.
But, would like your thoughts.
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Post by samuel on Aug 30, 2016 10:26:10 GMT -6
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Post by CowboysDad on Aug 30, 2016 19:50:45 GMT -6
Well, there are no contextual clues that I can see. Doing a search I see that John uses the phrase "the disciple whom Jesus loved" as a reference to himself as well as "the other disciple" in John 19, 20 & 21, but that doesn't seem to dovetail with the language of John 1, so I don't suspect that it is a soft reference to himself. It's hard to know whether this disciple is even a Judean or a Galilean since John the Baptizer preached in Judea and Andrew is from the northern coast of the Sea of Galilee. I'm not inclined to think that John intended for us to conclude that it was a disciple that appears otherwise in the narrative. I lean toward the simple conclusion that it is an unnamed disciple. What do you think?
- Daniel
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Post by samuel on Aug 31, 2016 7:55:15 GMT -6
I have to agree, with cowboys dad. My first thought was also John, then I had a second thought, and a third. That is why my final response was "nope". I removed the first two, It's also possible the unnamed disciple did not continue to follow Jesus, therefore was unnamed ??.
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Post by samuel on Sept 1, 2016 8:50:14 GMT -6
Well, I did a quite extensive study last night. And if you get your prospective right, the necessary clues are possibly there. You will need a decent reference Bible, I used my Cambridge Concord. After following one reference, to Matthew. I was able in a manner to connect the dots, the unnamed disciple was very possibly ---------- Simon Peter.  |
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Post by CowboysDad on Sept 1, 2016 15:36:52 GMT -6
"Involuntarily we ask: Who was the other of the two? And why is he not also named here? We know the answer: The other is John, the Apostle himself, who never mentions his own name in his Gospel nor the name of any of his relatives. John was the first and in his modesty declines to take the credit in a Gospel written by himself" (R. C. H. Lenski).
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Post by samuel on Sept 1, 2016 17:38:29 GMT -6
I went back, and rethought the previous study. I also came to the conclusion, it really had to be John also. My son asked the other day, who was the young man who ran away naked, at the arrest of Jesus. Of course without hesitation, I answered John. That was a dead giveaway. This question is not so obvious, as it is the only reference to John made this way. Well I class such questions as the above as Bible trivia, it really does nothing for your Spiritual status anyway. |
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